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Battle Position Changes Effective June 6, 2005

Un mail envoyé aux arbitre par UDE, que je traduirait plus tard. Il concerne une nouvelle règle sur les changements de positions des monstres, en mettant en accord les règles japonaises et us/fr.

En gros, la nouvelle c'est que si un monstre change sa position de combat par Book of Moon ou Conrtoleur d'Ennemi alors qu'il n'a pas déclaré d'attaque, il peut être changé de position.

Traduction en français

Kevin Tewart, UDE

La position d'une carte monstre dans Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME peut être changée selon 1 des 2 possibilités:

- 1. Un changement "manuel". Cela se passe lorsque vous utilisez votre "une-fois-par-tour" changement de position d'un monstre, pendant votre phase principale 1 ou 2, afin de passer le monstre de position d'attaque en défense et vice versa. Cela inclut l'invocation par retournement. Il y a quelques restrictions sur la possibilité de le faire (voir plus bas).

- 2. Un changement causé par un effet de carte. Exemples: “Enemy Controller”, “Zero Gravity”, “Guardian Sphinx”, “Book of Moon” and “Tsukuyomi”.

Un changement manuel peut uniquement être effectué pendant la phase principale 1 ou 2. Il y 3 exceptions qui vous empêche de le faire:

- Exception #1: Vous ne pouvez changer "manuellement" la position de combat d'un monstre s'il a déclaré une attaque ce tour (même si l'attaque a été annulée ou si un 'replay' s'est produit).

- Exception #2: Vous ne pouvez changer "manuellement" la position de combat d'un monstre s'il a été invoqué ou posé ce tour par le joueur dont c'est le tour.

- Exception #3: Vous ne pouvez changer "manuellement" la position de combat d'un monstre si sa position de combat a déjà été modifiée manuellement ce tour (incluant les invocations par retournement).

S.V.P. remarquez que:

Vous pouvez toujours modifier la position de combat d'un monstre par un effet de carte, même si n'importe quelle exception vous empêche de changer manuellement la position de combat.

Vous pouvez changer la position de combat d'un monstre "manuellement" si sa position de combat a été modifiée par un effet de carte antérieurement pendant le tour (aussi longtemps qu'aucune des exceptions n'existe).
Exemple: Vous activer “Book of Moon” et retourner un monstre en positio de défense face-cachée. Ensuite, vous pouvez l'invoquer par retournement dans le même tour pour autant qu'aucune des exceptions n'existe.

Vous pouvez changer la position de combat d'un monstre "manuellement" s'il a été invoqué ou posé par un autre joueur durant votre tour. Exemple: “Cyber Jar” invoque un monstre sur le terrain de l'adversaire et le joueur actif joue “Change of Heart” pour en prendre le contrôle, ensuite l'invoque par retournement. Ceci est un coup légal (aussi longtemps qu'aucune des exceptions n'existe).

Vous pouvez changer la position de combat d'un monstre "manuellement" s'il revient sur le terrain par l'effet de “Dimensionhole”, parce qu'il n'invoque pas le monstre (aussi longtemps qu'aucune des exceptions n'existe).

Le mail en anglais

Kevin Tewart, UDE

after discussion between Konami & UDE R&D teams, we're enacting a major change to the understanding of how battle position changes work in Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG.

These changes are effective MONDAY, JUNE 6. These will NOT be applied at events this weekend such as Canadian Nationals, etc.

- We have removed the Basic FAQ entry on battle position changes.
- We have removed the Advanced FAQ entry on "Guardian Sphinx", etc.
- We have added a new Advanced FAQ entry on "Battle Position Changes". That entry is as follows:

A Monster Card’s battle position in the Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME can be changed in one of two ways:

1. A "manual" change. This is when you use your once-per-turn battle position change on a monster, during your Main Phase 1 or 2, to change it from attack position to defense position or vice versa. This includes a Flip Summon. There are some restrictions on when you can do this (see below).

2. A change because of a card effect. Examples: “Enemy Controller”, “Zero Gravity”, “Guardian Sphinx”, “Book of Moon” and “Tsukuyomi”.

A “manual” change can only be performed during your Main Phase 1 or 2. There are 3 exceptions that will prevent you from “manually” changing a monster’s battle position:

Exception #1: You cannot “manually” change the battle position of a monster if it declared an attack that turn (even if the attack was negated or a replay occurred).

Exception #2: You cannot “manually” change the battle position of a monster if it was Summoned or Set that turn by the turn player.

Exception #3: You cannot “manually” change the battle position of a monster if its battle position was already changed “manually” that turn (including if it was Flip Summoned).

Please note that:

You CAN always change the battle position of a monster with a card effect, even if any of the above exceptions prevent you from changing its battle position “manually”.

You CAN change the battle position of a monster “manually” if its battle position was changed by a card effect previously that turn (as long as none of the 3 exceptions exist). Example: You activate “Book of Moon” and flip a monster into face-down Defense Position. Then you can Flip Summon it that same turn, as long as none of the 3 exceptions exist.

You CAN change the battle position of a monster “manually” if it was Summoned or Set, but not by the turn player. Example: “Cyber Jar” Summons a monster on the opponent’s side of the field, and the turn player uses “Change of Heart” to take control of it, then Flip Summons it that same turn. This is a legal play (as long as none of the 3 exceptions exist).

You CAN change the battle position of a monster “manually” if it was returned to the field because of “Dimensionhole”, because it does not Summon the monster (as long as none of the 3 exceptions exists).


Some individual card rulings may also be changed over the coming days, to reflect this rules change.

Kevin Tewart
Game Designer
UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead
Upper Deck Entertainment

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[ Edité par Yami-Sonic Le 03 jun 2005 ]

Les rullings des carets qui vont changer sont principalement:

Rullings changés par UDE, nouvelles règles appliquables le 6 juin 2005

Desert Sunlight

If you have a face-down Flip Effect monster, you can activate “Desert Sunlight”, chain “Book of Moon” targeting your monster even though it is still face-down, and chain another “Desert Sunlight”. When the chain resolves, you will flip the monster up, then down, then back up. The Flip Effect activates twice, and they wait to create a new chain after the current one resolves. For example, if the Flip Effect monster is “Morphing Jar”, its effect will activate twice in a chain, as Chain Link 1 and Chain Link 2, they resolve in reverse order, and both players will discard and draw 5 cards, then discard and draw 5 cards again.

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Creator Incarnate [Reversal of Old Rulings]/ Kaibaman / Hand of Nephthys / Red-Eyes B. Chick

Ignition Effects on monsters cannot be activated while the Effect Monster is face-down. So these face-down monsters cannot be Tributed for their own effects.

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Phoenix Wing Wind Blast

You cannot target a face-up non-Continuous, non-Equip Spell or Trap Card. This is because they are already “considered to be destroyed” once they are activated (even though they are not sent to the Graveyard until the chain resolves). If you target a face-down Spell or Trap Card, the opponent can activate it as a chain. If it is not Continuous, it will not be returned to the top of the Deck. It will be placed in the Graveyard after the chain resolves, as normal.

You can activate “Phoenix Wing Wind Blast” and target a face-up “Swords of Revealing Light” because it destroys itself by its own effect, instead of being destroyed when activate like most Normal Spell Cards.

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Level Limit – Area B [Reversal of Old Ruling]

If you Summon “Spell Canceller” while “Level Limit – Area B” is on the field, “Spell Canceller” negates its effect and is not changed to Defense Position.

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Thousand Knives

The required card only needs to be face-up on the field. It does not need to be a Monster Card, so if “Dark Magician” is equipped to your “Relinquished”, you can activate “Thousand Knives”.

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Primal Seed

The required card only needs to be face-up on the field. It does not need to be a Monster Card, so if “Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning” is equipped to “Relinquished”, you can activate “Primal Seed”.

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Royal Oppression

The effects of face-up Trap Cards cannot be activated during the Damage Step, so this card’s effect cannot negate the Special Summoning of a monster by the effect of “Mystic Tomato” or a “Cyber Jar” flipped face-up by an attack.

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Nightmare Wheel

If a face-down monster targeted by the effect of “Nightmare Wheel” is rearranged by the effect of “Wandering Mummy” or “Shifting Shadows”, the monster’s controller must honestly announce which monster is the target of “Nightmare Wheel”.

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Berserk Gorilla

If you control “Berserk Gorilla” you must enter your Battle Phase, even if “Gravity Bind” is active on the field, preventing it from attacking.

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Dark Magician of Chaos [Reversal of Old Ruling]

If “Dark Magician of Chaos” is Special Summoned in the middle of a chain (if it is not the last effect in the chain to resolve), the timing will not be correct for its Optional Trigger Effect, so you do NOT return a Spell Card from your Graveyard to your hand.

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Mind Control

The effect of “Mind Control” that prevents the targeted monster from attacking or being Tributed lasts until the End Phase of the turn ”Mind Control” was activated, even if the monster is flipped face-down before the End Phase. If the monster targeted with this card is flipped face-down, it will still return to the original owner's side of the field during the End Phase.

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D. D. Warrior Lady [Reversal of Old Rulings]

When your “D. D. Warrior Lady” attacks your opponent's “Fiber Jar”, if you activate her effect then “Fiber Jar” is Step 1 of the chain, because it is mandatory, and “D. D. Warrior Lady” is Step 2 of the chain because it is an optional effect. "D. D. Warrior Lady” removes from play both monsters, and then resolve the effect of “Fiber Jar”. “D. D. Warrior Lady” and “Fiber Jar” are not shuffled into the Deck.

When your “D. D. Warrior Lady” attacks “Wall of Illusion”, if you activate her effect then “Wall of Illusion” is Step 1 of the chain, because it is mandatory, and “D. D. Warrior Lady” is Step 2 of the chain because it is an optional effect. The effect of “D. D. Warrior Lady” removes from play both monsters, then the effect of “Wall of Illusion” disappears, since the attacking monster is no longer on the field.

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Bon, ben ça accelere le MoF+Book: abused...

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pour mes decks OTK surtout

c'est véritablement ABUSED !!

Je viens d'essayer en sur YVB tout à l'heure ... Tour 2 t'es mort oO
le type s'est barré je komprend c'est nul c'te règle

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Hmm je viens de penser à un truc ...

Ca réduit vachement l'utilité de Book of Tayou, par éxemple dans un jeu Meule ou on met 3 moon et 3 tayou pour refaire un coup de ver aiguille ou de metamol/chaos, histoire de meuler encore plus rapidement. Maintenant c'est faisable une fois sans tayou ... abusé :o

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Encore des changements:

"concernant les cartes UNAFFECTED BY SPELL CARDS"

UNAFFECTED BY SPELL CARDS
Some monsters are “unaffected by Spell Cards”. The more complete meaning of this
is: “unaffected by the effects of Spell Cards while this monster is face-up on the
field”.

These monsters can still be used to pay costs for Spell Cards (like “Level Up!”
or “Mystik Wok”). They can be revived with “Monster Reborn” or “Premature Burial”.

If a monster is unaffected by Spell Cards, that only applies to the monster. It
does not apply to a player. For example, if “Snatch Steal” is equipped to a
monster that is unaffected by Spell Cards, control of the monster will not switch
but the opponent will still gain 1000 Life Points during each of their Standby
Phases. Nor does it apply to something like “Metallizing Parasite – Lunatite”,
which would still be destroyed instead of the equipped monster, even if the
monster itself was unaffected by Spell Cards.

If a monster is unaffected by Spell Cards, that extends to any attacks the
monster makes. A monster unaffected by Spell Cards can attack while “Swords of
Revealing Light” is active, and its controller will not have to pay for “Toll”
or “Gravekeeper’s Servant” in order to attack with it. It can also ignore the
effects of “The Dark Door” or “Vengeful Bog Spirit”.

Spell Card effects can still be applied to monsters that are unaffected by Spell
Cards, but their effects will simply disappear. It’s like there’s a force field
surrounding the monster, protecting it from the Spell Card’s effect. However, the
Spell Card still “sees” the monster and may attempt to apply its effect on the
monster.

Example 2: The opponent controls “Silent Swordsman LV5” and “Gemini Elf”. The turn
player controls a “Sheep Token” and activates “Creature Swap”. When “Creature Swap”
resolves, the turn player selects his “Sheep Token” to give to the opponent. The
opponent can select “Silent Swordsman LV5” for the effect of “Creature Swap”.
However, since that monster is unaffected by Spell Cards, the force field around
him nullifies the effect of “Creature Swap”, and no monsters change sides. (Note
that this is very different from monsters that cannot change sides, like “Mataza
the Zapper” or “Blindly Loyal Goblin”. These monsters cannot be selected for
“Creature Swap” and another monster must be selected instead.)

On remarquera avec l'exmple que Creature Swap n'est plus appliqué pareil avec Horus LV6 ou Spdassin LV5, qui peuvent être choisit pour annuler l'effet du swap

et aussi:

"MISSING THE TIMING"

MISSING THE TIMING
Sometimes a Trigger Effect says that “when” a condition happens, you “can”
activate its effect. In this case, you are only allowed to activate the effect
when the condition being met was the last thing to happen in the game (activating
cards & effects that haven’t resolved yet doesn’t count).

If the triggering condition happened for an optional Trigger Effect, but something
else has happened after that, then you have “missed the timing” and you cannot
activate it. For example, this can happen if the optional Trigger Effect monster
was Tributed for a Tribute Summon or to activate a card effect, or if the
triggering condition happened in a chain and wasn’t Chain Link 1, or if another
card effect or game effect has happened since then. The triggering condition has
to be the very last thing that happened in order for a “when… you can” optional
Trigger Effect to activate.

Note that Trigger Effects can be found on Spell & Trap Cards as well as Monster
Cards.

For some good specific examples of “missing the timing”, see the rulings for
“Pinch Hopper”, “Butterfly Dagger – Elma”, “Heart of the Underdog”, “Peten the
Dark Clown”, or “Dark Magician of Chaos”.

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[ Edité par Yami-Sonic Le 05 jun 2005 ]

tu penses toi showbiz ?
Sinon sans rire les 3 exceptions ça servait à rien de les dire elle existe depuis le début et elles sont dans la règle du jeu.

[ Edité par Ultimateduelliste Le 15 jun 2005 ]

Tu fais expres detre comme sa pr enerver ou koi ?

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non mé cé showbiz ki a commencé

(si tu veux rigoler Suprem_Vegeta : http://www.finalyugi.com/yugioh-forum-viewtopic-19-2263.html)

Sinon franchement sa sert à rien ce topic !

Bon alors t'as gagné le gros lot toi
C'était ta dernière remarque inutile sur ce forum.

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bah j'ai envoye un mail à amon pour un ban

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Pour qui ? Ultimate duellist ?

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Bah oui, qui post 6 fois d'affilé sur le même topic et crée 3 sujets inutiles?

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LOL

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